tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3737235139994190228.post5779631938297233452..comments2024-01-10T00:07:48.304+00:00Comments on Cathode Ray Tube: TORCHWOOD - Children Of Earth: Day FiveFrank Collinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00680654042528560764noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3737235139994190228.post-44133386660806278912009-07-26T07:35:03.814+01:002009-07-26T07:35:03.814+01:00Wouldn't it have been better if Clem had survi...Wouldn't it have been better if Clem had survived the "severing" long enough so he could CHOOSE to be the instrument of the demise of the 456, instead of Jack's innocent, scared and confused grandchild whose trust in his "Uncle Jack" was betrayed?Tom Andersonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3737235139994190228.post-23363616677827140122009-07-14T13:48:52.310+01:002009-07-14T13:48:52.310+01:00Agreed that it doesn't have to be like Doctor ...Agreed that it doesn't have to be like Doctor Who but I think some people (like my wife) were expecting a happier ending. Not happy as such, just some ray of bright light in the bleakness.<br /><br />I thought, from an emotionly uninvolved standpoint, that it was quite refreshing.<br /><br />Yes, the show was very good but there were a few things off for me. And a few unanswered questions (not including the whole "What the hell were the 456"). Like... what happened to all the other Torchwood teams? Were they doing anything? Why didn't they, or UNIT, or some other boffins try something against the 456 (like blocking the 456 frequency or something)? Why did it take until the very end for someone to do something? The frequency 456, is that like a digital channel number, 456 MHz, 456 kHz, or something else? How did the 456 close the doors and introduce the virus into Thames house? How did Mr Dekker (I think that was his name) survive that attack - he put on the NBC suit a little late? Why was Dekker acting so weirdly at times? And many more.S Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14356657498264383431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3737235139994190228.post-32154360360548397902009-07-13T19:58:53.990+01:002009-07-13T19:58:53.990+01:00It's still all going round in my mind days lat...It's still all going round in my mind days later. That's satisfying; drama that throws up lots more questions than answers. Reminds me of how I kept thinking about the concepts offered up in Terminator II all those years ago. Superbly written. Brave and intelligent and no "Happy Ending". The only irritant was the way <b>Lois Habiba</b> kind of fizzled out... "I'll see that she's released" wasn't enough. Even a scene suggesting how she might have coped in the aftermath of her experience as a temp at the MOD...what would her skillset read on her CV now? Picture Lois at the Victoria branch of <i>Office Angels</i> or <i>Reed Employment</i>. <br />At least we know that <b>Bridget Spears</b> is not just a Whitehall spinster but, the BT mother of Kris Marshall who's just rung up to announce impending nuptials to former <i>Spook</i> Matthew McFadyen's (Tom) love interest Esther Hall (Ellie), so she'll have something to take her mind off of Frobishers fate and that of his <i>Petit Filous</i>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02767134139321509436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3737235139994190228.post-66528026457733137542009-07-13T13:04:02.962+01:002009-07-13T13:04:02.962+01:00This was truly the best weeks TV ever !!
Every day...This was truly the best weeks TV ever !!<br />Every day I waited to see how they could better the day before, and I was never disappointed. RTD is a legend.Tracyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12463109121104123181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3737235139994190228.post-69842957661273668302009-07-13T11:33:48.758+01:002009-07-13T11:33:48.758+01:00I don't think I could have said that any bette...I don't think I could have said that any better, Dave. <br /><br />I can't quite understand why fans are arguing that the Doctor should have made an appearance or that the end should have been happier. <br /><br />This is Torchwood not Doctor Who and I'm sure one of the aims for this five parter was to demonstrate that more than ever before. <br /><br />If the BBC doesn't renew it then it went out in spectacular fashion and is certainly one of the best pieces of telefantasy that will be remembered for a very long time. You can't ask for more than that.Frank Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00680654042528560764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3737235139994190228.post-58589925482782447752009-07-13T06:21:41.426+01:002009-07-13T06:21:41.426+01:00One of the things that Torchwood has needed is a r...One of the things that Torchwood has needed is a reminder that it is not Doctor Who.<br /><br />The ending to Children of Earth underlines that; none of the events we witnessed could have taken place in Doctor Who, because - as we are reminded so often - it is a Family Show. In the end, the people we looked to for heroism didn't give it, but we saw flashes of it from the usual RTD source: his Ordinary People. Johnny, and PC Andy, who were sucked into a situation so far beyond their own powers that they couldn't begin to understand - which they demonstrated - nevertheless acted heroically when everything went bad. They didn't do much, and their resistance was futile (isn't it always?) but at least they fought back.<br /><br />A trend has been growing in TV, really since writers worked out that you could tell one, ongoing storyline over weeks and months, even to years. We have seen RTD treat a season of Doctor Who as one story split into chapters, it's no stretch to see this as the end of Torchwood's first chapter (or the last), and perhaps the chapter end of Jack's current story. But this does not mean an end to the show, nor is the ending we were given really an ending; life, as they say, goes on. We have the promise of birth and renewal from Gwen, for example. This doesn't have to be over, but if the BBC decide that the show needs a rest, well, after that - who would argue?David Webbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11648632077632519082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3737235139994190228.post-75494078460043295082009-07-12T10:35:11.726+01:002009-07-12T10:35:11.726+01:00My goodness, that was so gut-wrenchingly bleak.
...My goodness, that was so gut-wrenchingly bleak. <br /><br />Sure, the good guys won in the end (by a flimsy method - though that wasn't the important thing here) but at what cost? Generally, the population now no longer trusts the government, people's rights have been abused, etc. And individually, Jack sacrificed his own grandson, his relationship with his daughter, and more. Ianto, Frobisher, Clem and more died. And Torchwood is no more!<br /><br />I was expecting a happy, fully resolved ending. We didn't get that. We got something more... realistic (well, sort of given the nature of the show) and depressing. In a way, it was much, much better than I was expecting but it was hardly a pleasant experience.<br /><br />It was brave of RTD et al to end it this way - but I wonder how many "normal" viewers it alienated?S Bateshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14356657498264383431noreply@blogger.com